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Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:28:25 -0000

Mgcci: such input is easily achieved using macro-expandersâ€¦ such as TextExpander (on mac)

I am sure there are similiar tools for other platforms

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Mgccl — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 07:14:57 -0000

I would love this to happen.
If I can input these things easily..
Like every time I want a square root sign I have to go to online and search "square root UTF" to find it.

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Mark Dennehy — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:03:06 -0000

Finally, a use for all the keys on the space cadet keyboard! :D

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:08:02 -0000

Dominik del Bondio: user-definable operators are possible in Haskell (and I guess some other languages) tooâ€¦

I want to see that as a "native feature" (aliased to standard ascii-operators)

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Sara Golemon — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:23:42 -0000

Here's an implementation for PHP6... Have fun with it!

http://blog.libssh2.org/ind...

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Aaron Wormus — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:46:04 -0000

sounds like you are looking for Perl6 :)

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Artjom Kurapov — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:13:36 -0000

I've got 10000 unicode symbol table here..
http://kurapov.name/unicode/

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Dominik del Bondio — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:00:26 -0000

Perl 6:
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/f...
user-definable operators (from the full Unicode set)
and http://dev.perl.org/perl6/d...

;)

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

endeveit — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:19:24 -0000

Looks very unusual :)
Maybe it is power of habit or inertness of thinking :D

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:16:46 -0000

Sebastian: that just means, that your font doesn't support that symbolâ€¦ :)

Unfortunately, a lot of windows-fonts have poor unicode-support.

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Sebastian — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:09:05 -0000

Here you already see the problems, Unicode introduces: The replacement you want for "->" (an Arrow) renders as ">" on my computer that doesn't have a very exotic configuration: WinXP + Firefox (German version both)

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:09:00 -0000

hartmut:
- typing unicode can be not-so-painful if OS gives a helping hand
- auto replacement is a personal choice

anyway, I think I made it clear, that both of these options (good'ol ascii and pretty unicode) should be supported by compilers/interpreters, imho.

and non-unicode-aware editor is something I don't want to face (actually I am quite happy, that these days I can use unicode on mac, linux, freebsd, openbsd and solaris)

and pretty-printing is a source of confusionâ€¦ because whenever you read pretty-printed document and try to type it in, you get problemsâ€¦

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Jan — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:01:02 -0000

@Regin Too many keys :p

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

hartmut — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:58:52 -0000

- typing unicode -> no way

- auto replacement -> i'd rather have "what you type is what you get"

- pretty printing -> tools like a2ps have been supporting this for ages

- and then there's the situation every once in a while where you have to modify code on a deployment system on which $EDITOR is not unicode aware yet ...

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Regin — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:53:50 -0000

Hmmm... what about unicode keyboards?

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:35:29 -0000

endeveit: because it looks cool ;)

a = 2;
b = 30;
Ñ = {qq: 3, zz: 4}

while (b â‰¥ a) {
a Ã—= câ†’qq;
}

â†‘b;

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

endeveit — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:21:40 -0000

But what for?
Could you tell in details?

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Alexey Zakhlestin — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:14:28 -0000

Tobias: that's an easy part, as there are a lot of utilities which do such changes in any application (I know at least 2 such tools for mac and 1 such tool for windows)

Re: Unicode vs. Programming Languages

Tobias Struckmeier — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:09:05 -0000

Hehe and an IDE that automatically makes the replacement after you type the ascii combinations.
Because I don't want to enter the unicode when writing one of those :)